Compare Anakin Skywalker and Kylo Ren Funny
anakin is ep 2 only
Anakin stomps. He was causing problems to Dooku, somebody who is leagues above Kylo in both: skill and force. Even if we will take away ABC logic, Anakin is actually more advanced swordsman. Dunno if Ep2 only means it's canon Anakin Skywalker during clone wars or only movie Anakin.
Anakin. Losing to Dooku >>> Losing to Rey.
It's possible for ep 1 Anakin to beat Kylo.
Poor kylo gets clowned . He can't even defeat a girl without any training, even my grandfather would give ren issues
Anakin stomps.
We don't know that Rey hadn't any training. I think she might be Luke's old student before Kylo destroyed them.
Kylo was heavily wounded when he lost to Rey. Also his force feats are way more impressive than AotC Anakin.
Anakin wins but this is not a stomp.
Anakin stomps. He has more combat and training experience than Kylo.
Anakin pounds Kylo with minimal effort
This is absolutely ridiculous, I can't take so many short sighted people.
Does Kylo get sand? :P
I dont see this as a stomp. Anakins overall power and skill will be hard to deal with but kylo has that too. Kylos raw power and strength in dueling and force power should allow him to keep up. Also if book feats are allowed he has an even better chance.
Could go either way tbh. We don't know enough about KR's full fighting capacity, other than he can stomp Rey and Finn while severely injured. That feat shouldn't be too far off from Anakin giving Dooku pause, but ultimately no match to him.
Anakin destroys Ren. He cuts him into space dust.
Anakin one-shots.
Anakin has superior training at this point in age.
Rey and Kylo both seem to have lots of untapped potential though.
Rey having a very strong connection to the force. Kylo having a incredible resolve and control over his pain and body. He was servely wounded after all and he took advantage of it to amp himself in order to keep up. And he dominated the fight for the most part.
Unfurtunately for Kylo, it doesn't seem like has much training either. Specially in dueling other force users. Snoke seems to have kept his training to a minimal. Only showing him basic darkside teachings.
Anakin blindfolds himself and cuts off an arm and still beats Kylo
The Anakin wank in this thread is... disturbing. Now, I will make a case for Kylo.
Physical Strength
While I agree that Anakin is faster than Kylo, given the fact that he created afterglows with his lightsaber during the Count Dooku duel, his strength is seriously overrated. Yes, he did press Dooku's blade back, I know:
But Anakin was just a Padawan, and Dooku didn't know that he was "The Chosen One" and that he was not a regular Padawan. Dooku's Makashi has also proven to be weak against kinetic attacks:
His elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head.
Revenge of the Sith novel
And aside from pressing back Dooku's blade (which was useless, given the Count disarmed him of the green blade and took his arm shortly after) Anakin has, that I know of, no other strength feats.
Kylo lifted Lieutenant Mitaka up with only one hand, and the First Order officer struggled to breathe.
Reaching out, a black-gloved hand clutched the startled lieutenant and pulled him violently forward. That metallic visage was now close, closer than Mitaka had ever been to it. As the officer struggled to breathe in that remorseless grasp, Kylo Ren's voice took on a timbre lower and more menacing than any the lieutenant had ever heard.
The Force Awakens novel
Kylo is considered to be stronger than Rey.
Though Ren was bigger and stronger than Rey, their struggle had nothing to do with physical size.
The Force Awakens novel
Which is no mean feat, given Rey has:
Stomped thugs.
She pivoted, leapt, and somehow brought down the thug who had tried to pin her in place. The other ruffian dropped the sack he held and rushed her. He should have picked a fight with someone bigger. Drawing her staff from her back, she clubbed and kicked him into submission. By the time Finn reached her, both thugs were knocked out cold.
A twist and flip, and suddenly the brute who had been holding her arm found himself on the ground. When his companion rushed to assist his downed associate, he found himself on the wrong end of a ferocious assortment of kicks, punches and blows delivered by the staff the girl was wielding. In short order, both ruffians found themselves prone and unconscious.
The Force Awakens novel
While strength is close, durability is a whole other story.
Annie boy just whimpered for a minute after being hit by Dooku's Lightning:
Kylo, however, not only survived but proceeded to beat the crap out of Finn after being shot by Chewie's bowcaster. That bowcaster is able to create mini-explosions capable of killing three Stormtroopers.
Heck, he was slashed across the face and survived. This is after being poked in the shoulder with a lightsaber.
Kylo>>>>Anakin in durability, and I think that will be an advantage- a strike from Kylo, Skywalker instantly dies. A strike from Anakin, Kylo might just survive.
Lightsaber Dueling
People say "Oh, AOTC Anakin nearly beat Dooku" or "He's a serious threat." First of all, Starwars.com, a canon source, outright debunks that:
Anakin and Obi-Wan dueled the former Jedi in a hangar, but were no match; Dooku defeated both and severed Anakin's arm.
Anakin Skywalker Databank
Anakin was no match for Dooku, meaning he can not hope to compete with or stalemate/beat the Count.
Also, I have proven that Skywalker's Form V is excellent for dealing with Dooku's Form II, due to Form II being weak against kinetic attacks, a speciality of form V, that is a highly aggressive form.
Anakin has also been labeled a tier FIVE by Nick Gillard.
Anakin has gone up probably four levels from Episode II to Episode III.
Nick Gillard
In Episode III, Anakin is a tier 9:
Anakin is nine.
Hayden in this film has gone up to a level nine.
Nick Gillard
9-4=5. And that's two tiers below Kit Fisto:
And somebody like Kit Fisto- seven.
Nick Gillard
And Kit got his @$$ whooped by a pre-prime Ventress.
He'd missed the engagement, but suddenly- Kit was down!
The Cestus Deception
While Anakin is a tier 5, which is n00b Jedi level, Kylo has had his skill labeled as deadly, and was known as a Jedi killer:
He has well earned the nickname "Jedi Killer", whispered in the First Order ranks, as it was his deadly lightsaber skills that prevented the return of the Jedi Order.
The Force Awakens Visual Guide
Kylo is nearly unstoppable.
The dark side flows through Kylo Ren, making him an almost unstoppable force on the field of battle.
The Force Awakens Visual Guide
Finn was no match for a bowcaster-wounded Kylo Ren.
Finn was fighting bravely, and Kylo was hurt from Chewbacca's earlier shot, but Finn was still no match for Kylo's practiced attacks.
Rey's Story
Bowcaster-wounded Kylo Ren has a good time with Finn and toys with the latter, but when Finn gets in a lucky strike, Kylo decides to end the contest.
Ren lunged, struck- Finn parried. Shards of light flew, illuminating the snow and the surrounding vegetation. Drawing back slightly, Ren considered his unexpectedly determined opponent, then resumed his assault with a vengeance.
Finn blocked him again and again, once letting the other man's beam slide against his own and harmlessly off to one side.He counterattacked, to no avail. The longer the contest continued, the stronger Ren seemed to become. It was as if he was enjoying the challenge. Feeding upon it.
At least, it appeared so until Finn parried, swung, and unexpectedly stabbed, the tip of his lightsaber beam grazing Ren's arm. That made it more than a challenge. Taking a step back, Ren reconsidered his opponent. When he closed the distance between them anew, it was with a purpose that had been previously lacking. Expecting an execution, he had found a contest. Now he had been touched. It was time for play to end.
Advancing relentlessly, he was driven by something that Finn could not even sense, far less counter. Still the ex-trooper fought back, until Ren landed a blow that cut across Finn's chest and sent the lightsaber flying from his hand.
The Force Awakens novel
Bowcaster-wounded Kylo Ren duels a Rage Amped Rey, and purposefully holds back, wanting to turn her over to the Dark Side. Both held the advantage in different periods of the fight, Kylo wounded and going easy on a Rage Amped Rey, but when Rey entered a state similar to Oneness and her power in the Force unleashed (get it?), Kylo was surprised and thus beaten.
But she had no time to ponder his comment, nor was she inclined to do so anyway; she was too consumed with rage. Holding the haft of the lightsaber in both hands, she ignited the beam- and charged.
Ren met her with his own weapon alight. Expecting weakness, he encountered only strength. Her skill with the device was raw at best, but it was backed with a fury that was as new to his experience as it was unexpected.
When the beams of their lightsabers crossed, the resulting burst of energy lit an entire section of forest.
(...)
For a while she actually drove him backward, until he regained self-assurance and in turn pressed her. The fight continued to shift back and forth; first he gained it back, then an enraged Rey took it back.
(...)
Ren held his lightsaber, poised to strike. "I could kill you right now." But there is another way."
Breathing hard, Rey looked up in disgust at the man looming above her. "You're a monster."
"No. You need a teacher." He was beseeching and insistent all at once. "I can show you the ways of the Force!"
Slowly she shook her head. "The Force?" That was what this was about? Instead of moving to defend herself, Rey closed her eyes. Ren hesistated, confused by her actions. A long moment passed, in which Ren sensed a change in the air, a change in her. Then she opened her eyes and attacked, viciously, in a way she didn't know she was capable of, striking again and again as Ren was slowly driven back.
The Force Awakens novel
Anakin is a mere tier 5 Padawan that, even with a style advantage and getting Dooku off guard, still lost convicingly. And the Count wasn't going full out, given that he didn't unleash his "finest assault on them", like he did to Yoda:
And in the fight with Yoda, he unleashed an offensive flurry that he did not unleash on the "Dream Team".
Dooku went into a wild flurry then, the likes of which he had not shown against Obi-Wan or Anakin, raining blows at the diminutive Master.
Attack of the Clones novel
Also, Dooku is not the god people make him out to be.
Grievous has given Dooku grief:
There had been moments during the extensive combat sessions in which Dooku had been hard-pressed to outduel the cyborg.
Labyrinth of Evil
Grievous got his @$$ whooped by a bunch of Gungans.
Ventress has given Dooku grief.
Snarling, Ventress charged at Dooku, reveling in the strength of her muscles as she dealt strike after strike. Her old Master parried expertly, but she forced him back. He dodged to one side. Just as Ventress realized she had overextended, Dooku's left hand clamped down on her right wrist and he brought up his own lightsaber. It was Ventress' turn to seize his arm and hold the scarlet blade at bay.
Dark Disciple
This is the DD version of Asajj, who was naturally weaker due to using only one blade (she was trained in Jar'Kai). Yet she still gave Dooku grief. Better version of Asajj has been:
Punked by S1 TCW Kenobi, who isn't much better than AOTC Kenobi.
Pretty much creamed by a Pre-Prime Mace Windu.
Heck, even Quinlan Vos defeated Dooku at the end of Dark Disciple.
Dooku was also Force Blasted by S1 TCW Kenobi:
Kylo is at the very least a mid tier 6, given his impressive accolades, defeat of Finn and possible defeat of Rage Amped Rey (while wounded), and his extermination of Luke's New Jedi Order. Anakin, on the other hand, is a tier 5, and got defeated by a Holding Back Dooku with circumstances favoring him. And I've proven above that Dooku's massively overrated by the SW community.
Force Powers
Anakin certainly has more potential than Kylo, due to his Chosen One status. As of ROTS, he's a Force powerhouse, capable of TKing Dooku, Ventress, tearing apart spider droids, being labeled as the most powerful Jedi, ragdolling Barriss. But as of AOTC, he is has little feats. Of course, he has some feats as a Padawan, such as:
But these take place after AOTC- and Anakin grows super fast. ROTS Ani>>>>AOTC Ani, for example. ROTS Ani>>TCW Ani. All in three years. And, tbh, B2 Battle Droids are fodder to even Youngling Ahsoka, who got curbstomped by Ventress and tripped on her own feet during the midst of battle.
As for Kylo...
He has immense TK defenses (Force Wall) and is capable of stopping a blaster bolt coming his way.
His reflexes and telekinetic defenses are immense- he is able to stop an incoming blaster bolt in mid air and hold it in place for several seconds before releasing it.
The Force Awakens Visual Guide
He is capable of the obscure ability called Force Stun, using it to stun Poe Dameron.
Initially driven by pure rage, Poe now found that he could not move. His heart pounded, his lungs heaved, but his voluntary muscles refused to responed. He was paralyzed as effectively as the blast from his blaster.
The Force Awakens novel
Kylo uses the Force to freeze Rey, and then induces sleep on her with the Force. For the former feat, only Yoda has done it (to Ventress), and for the latter feat, only Talzin and Mace Windu have done it to Savage+Maul and a Cult member respectively.
4:23-4:48.
Disarms and incaps a Rage Amped Rey.
Before she could fire, Ren raised a hand, halting her. She strained against him, her anger giving her strength. But she couldn't fire. He was struggling also, against her newly discovered ability, as well as the wound inflicted by Chewbacca's bowcaster. Gritting his teeth, he flung his arm sideways in a single, powerful gesture- and the blaster went flying out of her hand. Inhaling deeply, he gestured again, and this time it was Rey who went flying, to smash into a tree nearby and slide to the ground, dazed and hurt.
The Force Awakens novel
He is also capable of Tutaminis, deflecting Rey's lightsaber strikes.
Unarmed, he raised a hand and utilized the Force to fend off one slashing blow after another, until finally her fury penetrated his remaining defenses.
The Force Awakens novel
For Force, it's quite easy. Kylo has much more versatility, and better power feats.
In the end, Kylo wins decisively- he is vastly more powerful, more skilled, at least as strong, not as reckless and cocky, and can take much more punishment. He wins.
Episode 3 Anakin would be a much better fight.
I hate Kylo's whiny arse, but he beats Episode 2 Anakin.
Soundly.
Anakin curbstomps. Ep.1 anakin with a lightsaber might lose, or might do like rey.
@thesithmaster I hope that was a joke post.
Severe amounts of lowball.
Anakin is a level 7 in episode 2. Freaking lol.
Anakin wins this even if he had sand in his pants and Kylo had the high ground.
@rockette said:
Episode 3 Anakin would be a much better fight.
I hate Kylo's whiny arse, but he beats Episode 2 Anakin.
Soundly.
Ok
Prove it with feats. Hint: You probably can't
Anakin, definitively. Not a stomp, but soundly
@decaf_wizard: Kylo's best feat is TK blocking a lightsaber. 2 years pre AotC Anakin obliterated a dark side field capable of blocking lightsabers (a field Dooku created) while on a potent DS nexus.
Kylo can't compare.
Anakin pounds Kylo with minimal effort
@thesithmaster: Kylo Ren killed the Jedi Academy with the help of his group of knights, it wasn't a solo feat. Also, as I'm sure you know, Bowcasters charge up over time which lets them become powerful enough to shoot the 3-person explosion, but a quick pull of the trigger like Chewie did to him isn't anything close to what Han did to kill a group of storm troopers. His feat of defeating Finn who just got beat by a fellow storm trooper in his last fight is also more of a negative feat considering he let Finn land a hit on him.
Simply put, Kylo Ren is displayed as the worst duelist in Star Wars canon and yes, while he immobilized Rey, all he had to do was slightly exceed her physical strength which isn't as impressive of a feat as you make it out to be. I don't understand how you can make Anakin out to be weak because he was temporarily injured by Force lightning that was strong enough to pick him up and throw him around, yet seconds later jumped back into the fight. Your statement about Ren getting slashed across the face after getting poked by a lightsaber doesn't even incorporate into this fight in any way. How is a not dying from a superficial face wound a feat? There is no Anakin wank, Kylo Ren is just unbelievably awful and his out of place blaster freeze in the opening scene is all he has.
Additionally, I did see the spoiler at the end, but I wanted to put this out there for other people to read lol.
@guildseal: Did you actually read the entire post? Even the very, very, very end?
@greysentinel365: True, I know he's a tier 7, yet that quote somehow exists. Ridiculous to the say the least. If you avoid getting instablitzed by Dooku, you're >tier 5.
@kundelar: At this point, the answer to the question if I'm trolling or not should be crystal clear, but still, I'm going to counter your post. Because... why the hell not?
Kylo Ren killed the Jedi Academy with the help of his group of knights,
NIGH-FEATLESS Knights being the key to this. Kylo certainly did most of the work.
it wasn't a solo feat.
Still, carving through groups of Jedi is impressive, no? Even with other Darksiders (who are nigh-featless, and are all below Kylo according to Snoke?)
Also, as I'm sure you know, Bowcasters charge up over time
And, of course, Han had this luxury in the midst of a heated battle against the First Order.
but a quick pull of the trigger like Chewie did to him isn't anything close to what Han did to kill a group of storm troopers.
It's the same weapon, it does roughly the same damage, it hit Kylo, and left him bleeding... also that wound was significant:
Amidst the rising bedlam and confusion, Kylo Ren struggled to stand.
The Force Awakens novel
Yet he still beat the crap out of Finn and could have killed Rey. With an emotional hindrance.
Following through on the act ought to have made him stronger, a part of him believed. Instead, he found himself weakened.
The Force Awakens novel
Emotional hindrances such as this have proven fatal to the people that have them, such as Anakin vs Kenobi on Mustafar, where Anakin lost mainly due to being emotionally hindered.
His feat of defeating Finn
Is a considerable feat, given this:
FN-2187 proves to be a highly skilled stormtrooper -- at least during simulations.
The Force Awakens Visual Dictionary
While FN-2187 performs at the top of his combat classes, the ever-present First Order propaganda never really takes hold of his heart.
The Force Awakens Visual Dictionary
One of the best Imperial Stormtroopers got lightsaber training, and he made frequent use of it against pre-Dagobah Luke:
This was roughly two years before ESB, but at this point in the timeline Luke was capable of holding out Boba Fett for a short while, and even K.O. him.
The scans might be (and probably are) out of order, but you get the idea, right?
Yes, I know Kreel was an isolated case, but First Order>=Empire as a whole, as the movie makes it seem. And Finn was top of his class.
More feats for Finn, who is seriously underrated just because in the movie it says he worked in sanitation:
Finn efortlessly beat one of the Order's best Stormtroopers, Zeroes, who had beaten four opponents prior; Finn was only armed with a shield, while Zeroes had a Force Pike.
The person who remained longest on the floor was Zeroes. He went four bouts without falling, and then FN-2187 was called and ended his run. The Force pike gave Zeroes reach and he went in strong, but FN-2187 had his shield and he quickly discovered that, when he angled it properly, he couldredirect a jab in almost any direction he wanted. Zeroes tried attacking four times- low, low, low, and then high, driving the pike with both hands toward FN-2187's heart.
FN-2187 blocked, angling the shield to his right so that when the blow glanced off, Zeroes was off balanced and overextended. FN-2187 spun on his toes in the opposite direction, brought the mace in his other hand around low, and caught Zeroes just above the knee, sending him sprawling.
"Win!" shouted one of the instructors.
Before the Awakening
Curbstomps a FO group Stormtrooper.
It was the start of FN-2187's own streak, however. The next trainee to go at him was from a different cadre, the FO group, also armed with a mace and shield. The fight lasted three seconds. FN-2187 feinted an overhead blow with the mace, and when his opponent brought his shield up to parry it, he hit him instead with his own shield and knocked him flat.
Before the Awakening
Finn defeated two other FO stormtroopers, in less than a minute.
His next two opponents were also FO designations, another with a force pike and another one with a shield and sword. The second of those took the longest, almost a full minute, before FN-2187 managed to knock away his opponent's shield, and then it was a simple matter of waiting for an opening and striking at the right time.
Before the Awakening
Despite already having sparred numerous times, Finn manages to defeat Nines, another highly skilled First Order stormtrooper. NOTE: Nines was enraged.
Then it was Nines' turn, with his vibro-axe and shield, and if FN-2187 had thought Zeroes was angry when he'd lost, Nines seemed to start out that way. Nines began with a swipe straight at FN-2187's head, and the next thing 2187 knew Nines had rammed into him, body to body, their armor clattering as he was pushed back along the training floor. It took all his strength to keep his feet, to keep from giving Nines another opening with his axe, and finally FN-2187 dropped his shield altogether and used his free hand to take control of Nines' wrist. They spun in place, and FN-2187 slammed his shoulder into Nines's chest, sending him off balance long enough to create distance between them. Before he could recover his discared shield, though, Nines was launching at him again, and FN-2187 was using his mace with two hands, knocking away Nines's attacks as quickly as they came. He could feel his heart pounding inside the armor, the echo of his breathing as it grew labored. The thought occurred to him, unexpected and shocking, that Nines thought this was real, not an exercise, not training.
The vibro-axe fell again, slashing at his arm, and FN-2187 skipped back. The two of them began to circle. Nines feinted with the axe, then swung the shield and nearly caught him in the side, but FN-2187 managed to get the mace up and parry just in time. He saw the follow-up coming before Nines launched it, knew the axe was slashing in again, and that time, instead of stepping away from it, FN-2187 stepped forward and under Nines's guard. The mace was in the wrong position, its heavy head toward the floor, so FN-2187 used its pommel instead, smashing into Nines's helmet. The other trooper went sailing onto his back. He laid still, dazed for a moment.
Before the Awakening
And "Nines" happens to be FN-2199, the guy who fights Finn in TFA.
Finn's also pretty good physically. He takes a hit from the jaw with a sword hilt.
By that point FN-2187's mind was racing- thinking about Slip and Nines and Zeroes, and Phasma watching him- and it wasn't really a surprise when the world burst into a flare of white, when the hilt of the sword connected with his jaw, when he could taste his own blood.
Before the Awakening
Blitzes two stormtroopers in The Battle of Takodana.
The troopers were as startled as Finn when he sliced through armor, bone, and flesh. Two he cut down immediately.
The Force Awakens junior novel
Finn dodges blaster bolts, then shoots two enemies.
Just as the soldier opened fire, FN-2187 dove forward, tumbled into a freshly made crater, and lay flat for a second before popping up on his elbows. He fired twice before dropping down again, then rolled to his right and repeated, firing three times. He was pleased to see that he'd taken out two of the enemy.
Before the Awakening
Rolls to the ground and throws a grenade before his enemies could even get off a shot.
Just before they had their shot, he dropped low, sliding feetfirst toward the edge of the bunker- one hand holding his rifle against his chest, the other going for one of the grenades on his belt. He rolled at the last moment, thumbing the activator hard as he collided sideways with the bunker wall and then, in one smooth motion, bringing his hand up and tossing the grenade through the opening into the bunker.
Before the Awakening
Yet Kylo stomped Finn once he stopped toying. This Finn lowballing just because he's a Stormtrooper needs to stop.
who just got beat by a fellow storm trooper in his last fight
That dude is called Nines, a stormtrooper who Finn already defeated.
is also more of a negative feat considering he let Finn land a hit on him.
When a person is toying with someone far below them, they might still get hit.
Palpatine wasn't going full out on Mace, and he got his saber kicked out of his hand.
Palpatine wasn't going full out on Maul, and he got kicked.
The same happened to Kylo.
Simply put, Kylo Ren is displayed as the worst duelist in Star Wars canon
Younglings? ANH Luke?
and yes, while he immobilized Rey, all he had to do was slightly exceed her physical strength
No, he had to outright dominate her with the Force. The only time someone froze someone else like that was Yoda to Ventress. You can probably make out the disparity between those two.
which isn't as impressive of a feat as you make it out to be.
You're acting as if Rey was a fragile girl- no, she schooled thugs, floored Finn, and developed her durability during her time on Jakku.
Also, Ren has outright been stated as bigger and stronger than Rey, not just "slightly." Anakin's strength feats as of AOTC are meager- the only one he has (pressing Dooku's blade back) was through form advantage. And Dooku is no physical powerhouse.
I don't understand how you can make Anakin out to be weak because he was temporarily injured by Force lightning
Not weak, just less durable than Kylo, who is a physical tank.
that was strong enough to pick him up and throw him around,
Palpatine>>>Dooku, yet ROTJ Palps's Lightning was not enough to kill Luke after one minute of exposure. Anakin being paralyzed like that shows he's no tank.
yet seconds later
While you can count it in seconds, you can say "one minute" instead of ninety seconds- Anakin was out for a minute or so.
Your statement about Ren getting slashed across the face after getting poked by a lightsaber doesn't even incorporate into this fight in any way.
Yes it does, durability is an advantage, and Kylo is leagues ahead of Anakin in this regard.
How is a not dying from a superficial face wound a feat?
- You act as if getting slashed across the face is nothing.
- Kylo was already seriously injured.
- It's ahead of anything Anakin has shown.
There is no Anakin wank
Of course there is. AOTC Anakin challenging Dooku is plain stupid and false.
Kylo Ren is just unbelievably awful
People say this because he's not Darth Sidious-tier and thus ignore his best showings, or the circumstances to his low showings. He is not "awful", he's more like... average.
and his out of place blaster freeze in the opening scene is all he has.
My previous post soundly debunked this.
Also, this is not the first time I've had to support Kylo.
anakin for now. bump this when last jedi comes out
Anakin without all of his limbs and burning on Mustafar would still fodderize Kylo with TK.
Anakin fairly easily, Kylo Ren was woeful with his lightsaber ! Just flung it around everywhere like a little kid having a tantrum, so him going up against a boy who has been drilled in the Jedi Forms and perfected his own style? i think it's a clear win for the chosen one tbh! What is Kylo's form by the way anyone ? Form Swing it around until it hits something.
The only thing i found really impressive was his command of the force, freezing the blaster in place was a decent feat and the freezing ray in place was also a decen feat. He clearly has a knack for freezing things in place haha.
Anakin lolstomps
Ep 1 Annie stomps.
Not relevant, but doesn't this gif look like he just got a crotch shot?
@dagit: Yes, he's got balls of steel huehueuehe XD
This deserves a bump after The Last Jedi
Kylo got better, he has actual quantifiable feats now. Of a sort anyway. Killing, and struggling the whole time, against Praetorians is.....eh.....nice, but since we have no source on what they can do and how well trained they are it's not all that usable. Also, Old Luke completely schooled him when they clashed.
@paragonnate: He did better against them than Rey did so at least he's got that goin for him when he's not already injured.
@thevivas: Well, marginally better, they were both pressed pretty hard, and both were getting tagged/put in holds by the end. My memory is a little hazy though, saw it last night, and with how long it was and how much some story arc dragged I have trouble remembering a bunch of stuff solidly.
Source: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/kylo-ren-vs-anakin-1876368/
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